So I finally decided to do a bankroll update. Since my hands are not PT-importable at Cake, I can no longer split out full-ring vs. 6-max.
I am actually up about $500 overall from the last time I did an update in February, which is kind of a shock considering how much ground I had to make up. Go me.
That is all. I'm tired and haven't yet watched the season premiere of Family Guy. A man has to have his priorities.....
Wednesday, September 26, 2007
Friday, September 21, 2007
Some Cake Hands
Couple of interesting / fun hands from last night.
Cake Poker, Limit: $2/$4 (full ring), 10 players
Pre-flop: Hero is UTG+2 with A♦ K♦
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, CO calls, button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls, CO calls, BB calls.
I hate limp-reraisers, especially UTG limp-reraisers. This is only my second button rev, and UTG has been throwing their money around a bit recklessly but I don't know what a LRR means out of him. I decide to call his 3-bet rather than cap. Probably close / debatable.
Flop: K♥ Q♣ J♠ (12 SB, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, CO folds, BB folds, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.
Nice flop for me, but if his LRR meant AA, KK, or QQ then I am toast here. However, against this guy I am definitely committed to a showdown, even without my 4 outs to broadway. I am spending one bet per street to see a showdown, and (obviously) raising if I hit a T.
Turn: 8♣ (9 BB, 2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.
River: 3♦ (11 BB, 2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.
Results: Final pot: 13 BB
UTG shows K♣ 5♦
Hero shows A♦ K♦
I don't even know what to say, other than I'm going to be chasing this guy all around the site now.
Cake Poker, Limit: $1/$2 (full ring), 10 players
Pre-flop: Hero is HJ with A♦ A♠
3 folds, MP calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls, MP calls.
Flop: Q♠ 8♥ 3♦ (6 SB, 3 players)
BB checks, MP bets, Hero raises, BB folds, MP calls.
About as non-threatening flop for AA as you will ever see. Flop raise is a no-brainer.
Turn: 4♠ (5 BB, 2 players)
MP bets, Hero raises, MP folds.
I've seen a lot of this donk-into-the-aggressor stuff lately. This one is weird - it is obvious that I am not raising on the draw as there are no draws on that flop. The vast majority of the time this donk isn't a big hand like a set (although some will play this way, afraid I will check behind on the turn). But I also think this is an easy turn raise. I have no idea what hand he would have taken this flop/turn line with.
Cake Poker, Limit: $1/$2 (full ring), 9 players
Pre-flop: Hero is BB with 7♥ 4♣
2 folds, EP calls, 1 fold, HJ calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.
Quality hand, eh?
Flop: J♦ 7♦ 4♥ (4 SB, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, EP calls, HJ calls, SB calls.
Would love to have protected my very vulnerable bottom-two but didn't have any indication of who would bet. So, get money in the pot while I can.
Turn: 9♦ (4 BB, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP raises, HJ calls, SB folds, Hero calls.
If I am behind I have 4 outs, getting 9-1 on my final call. This is not quite enough, but all I need to do is make up 1 BB in implieds on the river if I hit. Very easy to do given my position on the raiser. Plus, I may be ahead of someone getting frisky with one-pair and the NFD. Easy call.
River: 4♠ (10 BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, HJ raises, Hero 3-bets, MP caps, HJ calls, Hero calls.
Sweet river card, but HJ woke up when the board paired? Hmmmmm. I decide the chance I'm up against JJ or 99 or 77 is pretty damn low and gas it.
Results: Final pot: 22 BB
MP shows K♦ Q♦
HJ shows A♦ 3♦
Hero shows 7♥ 4♣
Yes, I river good. But HJ played their hand horribly - easy raise for them on the flop. And, as played, if HJ 3-bets the turn, I am forced out of the pot. Slowplaying the nuts not often a good idea.
Cake Poker, Limit: $1/$2 (full ring), 9 players
Pre-flop: Hero is HJ with 7♠ 7♦
4 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.
Flop: 9♣ 6♥ 5♦ (6 SB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls.
BB would donk with a wide range here, and I'm glad he did, as it gave me a chance to leverage SB out of the pot.
Turn: 9♥ (5 BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.
This is the key point in the hand. I really want to show this down, really don't want to pay a lot to do so in case I'm against a 9, and don't want to give the BB a chance to c/r me making me pay 2 bets for my 6 outs (if behind). I am calling most any river card, as I realize I am inducing a bluff by this line.
River: 4♥ (5 BB, 3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.
Results: Final pot: 7 BB
BB shows Q♦ 6♣
Hero shows 7♠ 7♦
Seems standard.
Cake Poker, Limit: $2/$4 (full ring), 10 players
Pre-flop: Hero is UTG+2 with A♦ K♦
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, CO calls, button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls, CO calls, BB calls.
I hate limp-reraisers, especially UTG limp-reraisers. This is only my second button rev, and UTG has been throwing their money around a bit recklessly but I don't know what a LRR means out of him. I decide to call his 3-bet rather than cap. Probably close / debatable.
Flop: K♥ Q♣ J♠ (12 SB, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, CO folds, BB folds, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.
Nice flop for me, but if his LRR meant AA, KK, or QQ then I am toast here. However, against this guy I am definitely committed to a showdown, even without my 4 outs to broadway. I am spending one bet per street to see a showdown, and (obviously) raising if I hit a T.
Turn: 8♣ (9 BB, 2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.
River: 3♦ (11 BB, 2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.
Results: Final pot: 13 BB
UTG shows K♣ 5♦
Hero shows A♦ K♦
I don't even know what to say, other than I'm going to be chasing this guy all around the site now.
Cake Poker, Limit: $1/$2 (full ring), 10 players
Pre-flop: Hero is HJ with A♦ A♠
3 folds, MP calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls, MP calls.
Flop: Q♠ 8♥ 3♦ (6 SB, 3 players)
BB checks, MP bets, Hero raises, BB folds, MP calls.
About as non-threatening flop for AA as you will ever see. Flop raise is a no-brainer.
Turn: 4♠ (5 BB, 2 players)
MP bets, Hero raises, MP folds.
I've seen a lot of this donk-into-the-aggressor stuff lately. This one is weird - it is obvious that I am not raising on the draw as there are no draws on that flop. The vast majority of the time this donk isn't a big hand like a set (although some will play this way, afraid I will check behind on the turn). But I also think this is an easy turn raise. I have no idea what hand he would have taken this flop/turn line with.
Cake Poker, Limit: $1/$2 (full ring), 9 players
Pre-flop: Hero is BB with 7♥ 4♣
2 folds, EP calls, 1 fold, HJ calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.
Quality hand, eh?
Flop: J♦ 7♦ 4♥ (4 SB, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, EP calls, HJ calls, SB calls.
Would love to have protected my very vulnerable bottom-two but didn't have any indication of who would bet. So, get money in the pot while I can.
Turn: 9♦ (4 BB, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP raises, HJ calls, SB folds, Hero calls.
If I am behind I have 4 outs, getting 9-1 on my final call. This is not quite enough, but all I need to do is make up 1 BB in implieds on the river if I hit. Very easy to do given my position on the raiser. Plus, I may be ahead of someone getting frisky with one-pair and the NFD. Easy call.
River: 4♠ (10 BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, HJ raises, Hero 3-bets, MP caps, HJ calls, Hero calls.
Sweet river card, but HJ woke up when the board paired? Hmmmmm. I decide the chance I'm up against JJ or 99 or 77 is pretty damn low and gas it.
Results: Final pot: 22 BB
MP shows K♦ Q♦
HJ shows A♦ 3♦
Hero shows 7♥ 4♣
Yes, I river good. But HJ played their hand horribly - easy raise for them on the flop. And, as played, if HJ 3-bets the turn, I am forced out of the pot. Slowplaying the nuts not often a good idea.
Cake Poker, Limit: $1/$2 (full ring), 9 players
Pre-flop: Hero is HJ with 7♠ 7♦
4 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.
Flop: 9♣ 6♥ 5♦ (6 SB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls.
BB would donk with a wide range here, and I'm glad he did, as it gave me a chance to leverage SB out of the pot.
Turn: 9♥ (5 BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.
This is the key point in the hand. I really want to show this down, really don't want to pay a lot to do so in case I'm against a 9, and don't want to give the BB a chance to c/r me making me pay 2 bets for my 6 outs (if behind). I am calling most any river card, as I realize I am inducing a bluff by this line.
River: 4♥ (5 BB, 3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.
Results: Final pot: 7 BB
BB shows Q♦ 6♣
Hero shows 7♠ 7♦
Seems standard.
Cake Poker Results
Well, I managed to get a blog post within 4 months of a previous posting of mine. Go me.
Instead of just guessing how well I was doing at Cake, I decided to break out a combination of "find in file" and some scripts to gather some basic information about how I'm doing. As of last night.....
My bankroll on the site is $1,349.54, consisting of $500 deposit, $20 initial bonus, $50 instant bonus, $120 cleared bonus, $659.54 in profit.
I have played 4830 hands, broken down as follows:
$0.50/$1 : 589 hands
$1/$2: 3682 hands
$2/$4: 559 hands
However, in order to get a "true" BB/100, I would need my individual $ won broken down by levels, but that would require some scripting skill that I simply do not have nor want to learn. So how should I estimate?
Well, if my win rate (in BB/100) is the same across all the levels, then the following equation should hold.
589 /100 * WR * 1 + 3682 /100 * WR * 2 + 559 /100 * WR * 4 = 659.54.
I am absolutely positive my win rate is not the same across all levels, but lets run with it - it at least seems reasonable. Solving the above equation for WR (yes, algebra does come in handy sometimes), I get a win rate of 6.47 BB/100, so about what I had estimated before. Nice to know my estimating skills haven't gotten too rusty.
If I make the assumption that my win rate is less at the higher levels due to the better players there (LOL), then my win rate actually must be higher than 6.47 BB/100. Just as a test example of this, assume that my win rate at $1/$2 is 80% of my $0.50/$1 win rate and my $2/$4 win rate is 80% of that. Then I get the following:
589 /100 * WR * 1 + 3682 /100 * 0.8 * WR * 2 + 559 /100 * 0.8 * 0.8 * WR * 4 = 659.54.
giving a win rate of just over 8.3 BB/100.
In either case, I'll take it. Whether it is just running sick-hot over 5000 hands or beating up on the feebs I'm not quite sure but the money sure spends the same either way.
Instead of just guessing how well I was doing at Cake, I decided to break out a combination of "find in file" and some scripts to gather some basic information about how I'm doing. As of last night.....
My bankroll on the site is $1,349.54, consisting of $500 deposit, $20 initial bonus, $50 instant bonus, $120 cleared bonus, $659.54 in profit.
I have played 4830 hands, broken down as follows:
$0.50/$1 : 589 hands
$1/$2: 3682 hands
$2/$4: 559 hands
However, in order to get a "true" BB/100, I would need my individual $ won broken down by levels, but that would require some scripting skill that I simply do not have nor want to learn. So how should I estimate?
Well, if my win rate (in BB/100) is the same across all the levels, then the following equation should hold.
589 /100 * WR * 1 + 3682 /100 * WR * 2 + 559 /100 * WR * 4 = 659.54.
I am absolutely positive my win rate is not the same across all levels, but lets run with it - it at least seems reasonable. Solving the above equation for WR (yes, algebra does come in handy sometimes), I get a win rate of 6.47 BB/100, so about what I had estimated before. Nice to know my estimating skills haven't gotten too rusty.
If I make the assumption that my win rate is less at the higher levels due to the better players there (LOL), then my win rate actually must be higher than 6.47 BB/100. Just as a test example of this, assume that my win rate at $1/$2 is 80% of my $0.50/$1 win rate and my $2/$4 win rate is 80% of that. Then I get the following:
589 /100 * WR * 1 + 3682 /100 * 0.8 * WR * 2 + 559 /100 * 0.8 * 0.8 * WR * 4 = 659.54.
giving a win rate of just over 8.3 BB/100.
In either case, I'll take it. Whether it is just running sick-hot over 5000 hands or beating up on the feebs I'm not quite sure but the money sure spends the same either way.
Thursday, September 13, 2007
4 Months of Cricket Sounds
Wow - I wanted to write a quick update and looked at the date of my last post. I knew it had been a while, but 4 months since my last post and 6 months since the post before that? How time flies.....
Neteller announced our ability to get our money back on July 30, and I submitted my withdrawal request early that morning. Amazingly enough, the money had arrived in my bank account less than 24 hours later. Quite surprising, given how many people must have been trying to pull their money out at the same time, and how much trouble everyone had gone through getting their money out before.
I had already withdrawn most of my money off individual poker sites, leaving only a "seed" amount of $300-ish at Stars and Full Tilt. I haven't played at either site in quite some time, primarily due to.....
The Cake Poker Network. Otherwise known as The Home of the Softest Games on the Internet.
During the Neteller fiasco and my hiatus from playing due to my 300+ BB downswing I got separate emails for $20 no-deposit free money at each of two Cake Poker skins. On the first skin I have built that $20 up to $160, as described in my last post. On the second skin, I had barely built the $20 to $30 when they had an incredible deposit bonus: 200% deposit bonus + 10% instant bonus. The 200% bonus clears slowly, but it is hard to pass up that kind of money especially given the softness of the games. The only issue is the traffic on the site is rather slow - often there are only a few games going on at the limits I want to play even during 'prime time.' But I decided to take the plunge - my plan was to take $500 of my Neteller money, deposit, and start out at $1/$2 and see where I wound up.
I deposited my $500 on August 15, and am currently sitting on $1,150 - consisting of my original $20 original bonus, $50 instant bonus, $80 in cleared bonus, and $500 of profit. My current game selection lies across the $1/$2 games (both full-ring and short-handed) and $2/$4 full-ring, although there is often not a single $2/$4 full-ring table going. Yes, the site is that deserted at times. I have taken select shots at $2/$4 short-handed when the tables look particularly juicy, but don't want to add $2/$4 SH into my regular mix until the bankroll hits $1,500 or so.
Believe it or not, I actually haven't played that much to get to this point - likely somewhere between 2500 and 3000 hands. This is an estimate since the site is not PokerTracker compatible, but I'm pretty sure this is a correct range. That works out to an (estimated) 6-7 BB/100 - a combination of running hot and the site being that soft. I have 2 months to clear the rest of the bonus, and given that I've only cleared $80 in the first month I think clearing the rest of the $920 is right out. But if I can make $2/$4 my main game next month and (if I continue well) $3/$6 my game the following month I could clear an additional $400 or so.
No, I have not yet updated my bankroll status since February. Maybe that will be the topic of the next blog post.
Lastly, the 4th season of High Stakes Poker has started on GSN. Still the best poker show on TV, by far.
Now we'll see if it will be another 4 months before my next update......
Neteller announced our ability to get our money back on July 30, and I submitted my withdrawal request early that morning. Amazingly enough, the money had arrived in my bank account less than 24 hours later. Quite surprising, given how many people must have been trying to pull their money out at the same time, and how much trouble everyone had gone through getting their money out before.
I had already withdrawn most of my money off individual poker sites, leaving only a "seed" amount of $300-ish at Stars and Full Tilt. I haven't played at either site in quite some time, primarily due to.....
The Cake Poker Network. Otherwise known as The Home of the Softest Games on the Internet.
During the Neteller fiasco and my hiatus from playing due to my 300+ BB downswing I got separate emails for $20 no-deposit free money at each of two Cake Poker skins. On the first skin I have built that $20 up to $160, as described in my last post. On the second skin, I had barely built the $20 to $30 when they had an incredible deposit bonus: 200% deposit bonus + 10% instant bonus. The 200% bonus clears slowly, but it is hard to pass up that kind of money especially given the softness of the games. The only issue is the traffic on the site is rather slow - often there are only a few games going on at the limits I want to play even during 'prime time.' But I decided to take the plunge - my plan was to take $500 of my Neteller money, deposit, and start out at $1/$2 and see where I wound up.
I deposited my $500 on August 15, and am currently sitting on $1,150 - consisting of my original $20 original bonus, $50 instant bonus, $80 in cleared bonus, and $500 of profit. My current game selection lies across the $1/$2 games (both full-ring and short-handed) and $2/$4 full-ring, although there is often not a single $2/$4 full-ring table going. Yes, the site is that deserted at times. I have taken select shots at $2/$4 short-handed when the tables look particularly juicy, but don't want to add $2/$4 SH into my regular mix until the bankroll hits $1,500 or so.
Believe it or not, I actually haven't played that much to get to this point - likely somewhere between 2500 and 3000 hands. This is an estimate since the site is not PokerTracker compatible, but I'm pretty sure this is a correct range. That works out to an (estimated) 6-7 BB/100 - a combination of running hot and the site being that soft. I have 2 months to clear the rest of the bonus, and given that I've only cleared $80 in the first month I think clearing the rest of the $920 is right out. But if I can make $2/$4 my main game next month and (if I continue well) $3/$6 my game the following month I could clear an additional $400 or so.
No, I have not yet updated my bankroll status since February. Maybe that will be the topic of the next blog post.
Lastly, the 4th season of High Stakes Poker has started on GSN. Still the best poker show on TV, by far.
Now we'll see if it will be another 4 months before my next update......
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